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Jul. 7th, 2012 @ 03:25 pm Public finances
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This strip by Wondermark illustrates the state of the debate about public finances. It's all about not "stealing the taxpayer's money" and politicians are all crooks and liars. Some people seem to think: "Well, I don't need this particular subsidy/service/security, therefore it is a complete waste of money!"

It saddens me that we seem to have somehow slipped down Mastov's pyramid so that we're only thinking about ourselves again.
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From:merle_
Date:July 7th, 2012 09:48 pm (UTC)
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There has always been an ebb and flow between "we'll contribute to the village" and "my wages are my own to distribute". I tend towards the middle, feeling neither side is correct. One should have the right to vote about taxation but whatever the vote is it should be accepted.

Dunno. Just my two.. hmm. Are there the equivalent of cents in the Eurozone? If so it'd be about 1.35 pennies here.
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From:fub
Date:July 8th, 2012 07:53 am (UTC)
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Well, take the case of the library in Troy, Michigan. Closing the library would close access to culture for the poor, who hardly have any other avenue. What irks me the most is that the money spent on the campaign to close the library could have been spent on the library itself instead, negating at least partly the need for the extra tax!
There seems to be a meme that poverty is somehow the result of a lack of character -- but as long as an "honest day's work" doesn't pay a decent living wage, I don't see how that can be true.

Yes, there are eurocents. There's coins of one and one of two, so you can pay two eurocents in one coin! Here in the Netherlands we simply round everything to the nearest 5 eurocents, because all those loose coins with a low value was just too much hassle.
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Date:July 8th, 2012 10:09 pm (UTC)
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Closing down libraries or schools always seems wrong to me. If so done, in the absolute best case, the condo developer who just razed your land might sell it back for four times what you sold it for. Plus, as you mentioned, the lack of culture and basic support for the poorer is essential. There are many poor people out there who work several jobs that are quite unexciting just to be able to live. If that is not a work ethic I am not sure what could count.

Cool -- you have two cent pieces? We did once, back around 1844 if memory serves. It seemed wise because in average change here probability suggests 2 pennies, 1/2 each of a nickel and a dime, and 1.5 quarters. Who wants a penny? I would much rather every purchase be rounded up to the nearest quarter, even if I lost money on the deal.
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From:isabelgou
Date:July 8th, 2012 10:25 am (UTC)
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On the ever-growing lists of reasons why I'm happy to be living in the Netherlands and not the US of A...</p>

For extra fun: apparently being able to afford health care over there doesn't mean you'll be able to afford good health care so you might still be screwed by the time you're wheeled into hospital. Excuse me while I egoistically prefer to pay a bit more tax if that means actually getting proper care when I do need it O_o

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From:nathreee
Date:July 9th, 2012 09:05 am (UTC)
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I'm not the brightest bulb in the ceiling when it comes to talking about economy, but I do think that my tax money is generally well-spent on things that our country needs. I lean towards socialism in my convictions, I'd rather live in a country with no poverty where everyone can have access to healthcare and pays a lot of taxes, than live in a liberal country where people die because they can't pay for their food or their healthcare while I live comfortably anyway.
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